Sergiu Samuel, engineer
"So, we went on
living. And we're still trying to do it."
Serge (friend of Nathan) came to our hotel in the morning. We walked
down to what was to become our de facto office for the next few
days, the beachfront cafe at the foot of Frishman Street.
Serge came to Israel in 1941, on the last boat out of Romania before
it went totally Nazi. His father was in hotels and casinos, and
had a transit visa for Cuba, where friends had urged him to come
and wait out the passing storm of European madness. He decided to
stay in Israel (Serge thinks because it wasn't so far from home)
and ran a hotel in Haifa. Serge learned Hebrew (also English and
Arabic) and went to school.
After the war, Serge's father went to France ("He was
never quite happy here") and discovered that some money
he had in a safe deposit box actually made it through the war. He
was very much surprised and with a couple of partners bought a hotel
in Paris. Serge spent a few months training holocaust survivors
and volunteers in Italy and France for the coming war of Independence.
He returned to Israel and joined the Palmach, and had "the
misfortune to meet some Egyptian lead."
After that war Serge thought he might join a kibbutz the Palmach
had established just south of Tel Aviv ("Although I didn't
believe in socialism, I did believe in making something here"),
but he was wounded and not much use to a kibbutz just getting started,
and his folks wanted him to come to France and go to school, which
he did.
Serge is an engineer specializing in reliability and quality, working
"for the defense establishment."
Summary of video clips:
Part 1:
Serge tells about how his family left Romania on the last boat out,
and how they got settled in Israel...His parents move to
Paris...war of independence...why Arabs left..."So, we went
on living. And we're still trying to do it."
Part 2:
Serge doesn't use the Zionist slogan, "A land without people
for a people without land," but this is the view of Israeli
history he presents here...I ask him what will happen to Israel.
He says he hopes for a "more or less imposed peace." He
says the Arabs don't want peace..."No Arab village was touched,
no Arab land was taken" in the West Bank...He says Israel has
been willing to do everything reasonable and a lot more for peace.
"They don't want it."
Part 3:
"You don't quite see what Israel looked like 50 years ago,
when I grew up. The desert started 20 miles south of Tel Aviv."..."The
desert...now starts 200 miles from Tel Aviv."..."I never
thought that the Jews were saints. We're not saints. But we try
to be reasonable and just. We don't always succeed, but we try."
Part 4:
"I'm very sure 90 per cent of the Palestinians want peace."...We
discuss first and second languages. "We should speak Arabic
but we don't."...I ask Serge if he has Arabic friends.
Part 5:
Serge tells how a would-be suicide bomber was caught and disarmed
right here on the strand in the past few weeks....Discusses what
happened at Jenin..."Our people have very strict orders...to
do their damned best not to harm civilians."
Part 6:
I ask Serge to comment on analogies between Israel and South Africa
on the one hand and the American settlement of the west. "Very
few Arabs were driven off their land."
Part 7:
I ask Serge what he knew about the holocaust, and when he knew it.
He describes a visit to Auschwitz with his son. "I thought
I new everything, until I was there.".."There were cases
of holocaust since the world war, notably in Africa. Happily they
were less efficient."..."Animals kill to eat. I prefer
cannibals to nazis."
Part 8:
Serge discusses Iraq and Hitler. "When you have a viper, you
have to get rid of it." ...Serge discusses the Palmach, "the
shock troops of the Israeli underground."..."We had our
terrorists, too, but with a difference."
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